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Post  ro karen on Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:45 pm

I've actually had it said to me that White people are not "diverse."

Do you also have to integrate the "physically challenged" in your designs? I've slammed my head against my desk more times than I care to count, trying to find suitable photos that meet agency ethnic and physical requirements for photos. One particularly difficult client worked my boss and me to the point where my boss finally just pointed at one of the people in a rejected photo and declared "That person right there? She's deaf." Our client literally stopped and stared at the photo like my boss was serious. confused
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Post  Jakob on Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:51 pm

Our photographer has a line on a "guy in a wheelchair" but scheduling has been a bit of a challenge. The guy's always on his sailboat. Now that winter has come, we're hoping to get a hold of him.

One photo almost got rejected because these two girls on a dock "looked like lesbians" because they were leaning against each other (as tween girls will do with their friends). I said, "DIVERSITY!" It turned out to work in my favour that time.
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Post  ro karen on Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:57 pm

Jakob wrote:One photo almost got rejected because these two girls on a dock "looked like lesbians" because they were leaning against each other (as tween girls will do with their friends). I said, "DIVERSITY!" It turned out to work in my favour that time.
Laughing That's effing brilliant.

That line would never work with my clients. That's not categorized as "diversity" here. That's categorized as a "lifestyle choice"...and a wrong one at that by the previous administration. Maybe that will change now...but I'm not holding my breath. I don't look good blue.
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Post  GAB on Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:59 pm

ro karen wrote:
That's not categorized as "diversity" here. That's categorized as a "lifestyle choice"...and a wrong one at that by the previous administration. Maybe that will change now...but I'm not holding my breath. I don't look good blue.
Can't go turning blue. It would blend right in with the uniform!!
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Post  Marius on Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:19 pm

ro karen wrote:
Jakob wrote:One photo almost got rejected because these two girls on a dock "looked like lesbians" because they were leaning against each other (as tween girls will do with their friends). I said, "DIVERSITY!" It turned out to work in my favour that time.
Laughing That's effing brilliant.

That line would never work with my clients. That's not categorized as "diversity" here. That's categorized as a "lifestyle choice"...and a wrong one at that by the previous administration. Maybe that will change now...but I'm not holding my breath. I don't look good blue.
Now you're discriminating against Lesbian Andorians?! geek
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Post  Tony on Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:10 pm

I can't help wondering, who is the most phyically-challenged (or is it mentally-challenged in this case) on Starbase 66? DIVERSITY!!!
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Post  Jakob on Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:13 pm

Kennedy is a one man diversity rainbow.
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Post  weathereye on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:16 pm

Sure. I'm a physically and mentally challenged Irish African Scottish Indian Muslim Christian Jew, and I like bacon. This makes me (ta-dah!) Canadian. I usually just tell people I'm Italian.
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Post  Jakob on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:37 pm

And your mothers are lesbians. Don't forget that stripe.
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Post  rob on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:34 am

Ugh , the whole diversity question really gets on my nerves at times. Some of those radical liberals are so frightened of slighting minority groups that they go so far as to think that equal opportunity also means equal pay and jobs. And also to proffer that a couple of people lawfully walking about with guns on their hips at an Obama speech is a racist statement against his facial tone. Does it never strike them that there are people who don't agree with his policies? Political correctness gone loony . I don't know what political side I belong on but I see plenty of craziness on both sides of the divide!
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Post  JayMasterOfNone on Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:03 pm

Hey guys,
Good episode, I enjoyed hearing a different perspective on it. I'm not going to get too lengthy here, since after the bulk of the comments you had the thought of 'maybe they didn't think the towers would come down,' which is absolutely fact. Being only a few miles from this thing and watching it play out live and seeing and smelling the smoke outside my house, (not to mention it raining burnt paper about an hour afterward- I caught Barry White's tax return!), NOBODY thought they would come down. If you've ever been there, you'd have felt the same way. Hell, even after the first one came down, I thought , "Wow that's going to be weird seeing just one tower."

When disaster strikes, it is the job of emergency responders to get in there and handle it as best they can, big or small. Sure, if they think a building and rescue situation is hopeless, they get out, but not one person thought that about these massive, massive buildings, especially knowing how it was built, which is why they thought it was just going to be a long day at the office and not their last. It was basically a huge fire with injured people that needed to be taken care of. That's what they are trained and paid to do. The management decision of the situation was weighing saving thousands of civilians over a few hundred firemen, which I believe was still the right call in the end as far as the FDNY is concerned.

The firefighters who went in there were doing their job, yes, but still could've decided "fuck this shit" and walked away, which a lot of them probably thought and some may have even done. Everybody has a choice whether to do something or not, and risking your life to save someone else, is the simplest definition of the word hero. Although an even simpler definition is: sandwich. Believe me though, these guys do not get into it for the money. They get into it for the hours, pension and pussy, but that's another story. Anyway, my hat will always be off to those guys who ran in while everyone else was running out.

The other thing about the hero label too is that it is usually one that is given by others. I'd bet that 99% of those guys would say they are not heroes, they were just doing their jobs.

Oh, and welcome to the family.

And- "this girl's deaf." HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post  Jakob on Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:13 pm

I believe we actually say "maybe they thought the towers wouldn't come down" on the episode. I must have mumbled it (likely) because that seems to have slipped past people.
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Post  JayMasterOfNone on Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:15 pm

No I said that 'you had the thought of' meaning that you did say it. Which is why I didn't rant on too much.
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Post  Jakob on Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:18 pm

Ah. I thought you meant when I mentioned it in this thread. Rants are certainly welcome.
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Post  Tony on Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:43 pm

One of the best digs at "diversity political correctness", I think, is the name of the only African/American kid on "South Park"...TOKEN!

His reaction (in the hilarious "Christian Rock" episode) after Cartman told him to look for his dad's bass guitar in the basement was priceless.

Token: We don't own a bass.
Cartman: Of course you do, all black people know how to play bass!
(Token proceeds to find a bass in his basement)
Token: God dammit!

Note: it's a 5-string bass, supa funky!

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Post  Bucho on Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:01 pm

Jakob wrote:I believe we actually say "maybe they thought the towers wouldn't come down" on the episode. I must have mumbled it (likely) because that seems to have slipped past people.

Nah, you said it loud and clear enough, it's just that the sentiment you expressed first was so antithetical to most people's take on the subject of what some people did or didn't do that day that it makes a big impression and provokes a strong reaction. So even when you did think of another side of the story and adjust your take later in the discussion the residue of the earlier statement has left such a powerful mark that it lingers after the episode is done.
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Post  weathereye on Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:34 am

Jakob wrote:And your mothers are lesbians. Don't forget that stripe.

I never have a problem getting my hands on quality power tools.
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Post  ro karen on Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:27 am

weathereye wrote:
Jakob wrote:And your mothers are lesbians. Don't forget that stripe.

I never have a problem getting my hands on quality power tools.
If you were any other man, I'd...still be laughing over that statement, but you make it that much funnier Laughing
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