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#24 Sculder and Mully

Post  GAB on Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:49 pm

"Home" FTW.
An episode so disturbing that my wife couldn't get through it! It still stands as the only X-Files episode I've seen start-to-finish. That means it either had a similar impact on me, or the X-Files was always a bit of a hurdle.
I think it's that hurdle-thingee.

Also, it does throw me a bit when a ringtone sounds too much like something more "real." X-Files theme would be a good example.
At work, the offices have a ringtone option that has a voice saying, "Are you there?" affraid Too freaky for me.
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Post  La Femme Fox Mulder on Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:27 pm

Well.. I can see why you guys never got into the XFiles after THAT episode. lol. apparently it was banned from FOX after its first airing and got a 'mature' audiences rating due to its graphic subject matter.
When I was younger I caught an episode with this creepy little man with no legs who wheeled around on this little cart thingy. It scared the shit out of me. It was called "Badlaa", it was about this man who could enter peoples bodies. iiiiieeeeeee.... I had dreams of that little man for a while, and stopped watching xfiles. But now that I am in the process of re-watching the entire series, it seems less intense to me. Mostly cause I am desensitized. I think deep down the episode scared me more cause Sexy Mulder wasn't there to rescue me.
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  kumarhk on Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:48 pm

I have a HUGE X-Files hurdle. I've seen a couple of episodes, and it's just so incredibly 90s and unbelievably cheesy - and this is coming from someone who can't go through a week without watching a TOS episode.
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  Jakob on Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:34 am

Rehlinger's Law of Cheesiness:

The acceptable level of cheese in a film or television show is proportional to the amount of time which has passed since its production. Unacceptable cheese levels rise by a factor of one per year for the first five years, two per yer for the next ten, and three per year for the remaining five years. At the 20 year mark, cheese levels begin to drop again at an exponential rate relative to the film's own Camp Index Rating (CIR).

So The X Files, which first aired in 1993, is still on the cheese incline and is increasing in cheese velocity. In the year 2013 its cheese will begin to convert from UAC (unacceptable cheese) to AC (acceptable cheese). Due to a fairly low CIR, The X Files (unlike Star Trek TOS) will take up to ten years to achieve equalibrium with shows like Dr. Who, TOS or Twilight Zone.

A note on television shows with multiple seasons and variable CIRs: Often the Camp Index Rating of long running television show varies over time. Early seasons will often have higher CIRs than middle seasons which often have the lowest due to increased budget and network attention to a hit show. Final seasons often find themselves with a higher rating as writers and producers run out of ideas and so-called "shark jumping" becomes an increasing temptation. Due to variable CIRs, middle seasons of a television show will actually achieve AC equalibrium later than cheesier final seasons. This is called the Camp Index Paradox.


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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  Tony on Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:36 am

One of my absolutely favorite shows.

"HOME" amazed me, I saw the original broadcast, and it just kept pushing and pushing the envelope!!!
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  Mandi on Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:49 pm

Jakob wrote:Rehlinger's Law of Cheesiness:

The acceptable level of cheese in a film or television show is proportional to the amount of time which has passed since its production. Unacceptable cheese level rise by a factor of one per year for the first five years, two per yer for the next ten, and three per year for the remaining five years. At the 20 year mark, cheese levels begin to drop again at an exponential rate relative to the film's own Camp Index Rating (CIR).

So The X Files, which first aired in 1993, is still on the cheese incline and is increasing in cheese velocity. In the year 2013 its cheese will begin to convert from UAC (unacceptable cheese) to AC (acceptable cheese). Due to a fairly low CIR, The X Files (unlike Star Trek TOS) will take up to ten years to achieve equalibrium with shows like Dr. Who, TOS or Twilight Zone.

A note on television shows with multiple seasons and variable CIRs: Often the Camp Index Rating of long running television show varies over time. Early seasons will often have higher CIRs than middle seasons which often have the lowest due to increased budget and network attention to a hit show. Final seasons often find themselves with a higher rating as writers and producers run out of ideas and so-called "shark jumping" becomes an increasing temptation. Due to variable CIRs, middle seasons of a television show will actually achieve AC equalibrium later than cheesier final seasons. This is called the Camp Index Paradox.

Swoon.
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Post  kumarhk on Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:42 pm

Kumar's law of cheesiness:

The level of cheese increases exponentially with the stickiness of the cheese.


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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  Bucho on Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:43 pm

Bucho's Law of Cheesiness:

I like cheese.
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  GAB on Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:12 pm

I enjoy bacon with my cheese. I guess that means I should watch Tremors, Stir of Echoes, Sleepers ...
Actually, Hollowman (again) is pretty cheesy.
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  kumarhk on Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:06 am

Corn is what goes best with cheese. Corny cheese FTW.
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  rob on Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:29 am

Rob's law of cheesiness

No cheese
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  Mandi on Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:37 am

Lactose intolerant?
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  Roundapanda on Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:44 pm

Jakob an Mandi sound very poorly Razz

I think I was a bit young to get into the X-files, and my mam was never a big enough fan to force it on me (unlike star trek, which I watched in the womb)
So, if I was to get into the X-files, where would I start?
Movie? Any particular season or episode?
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  Mandi on Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:48 pm

I'd start at the beginning.
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  Jakob on Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:48 pm

I would think "Home" would be the episode to jump in at. Though it's not entirely indicative of the whole series. But Mandi's right. The beginning is a good place because the whole appeal is the development of the Sculder soap opera.
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  Mandi on Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:52 pm

RoundaP, I have 3 letters for you... UST.
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Post  kumarhk on Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:10 pm

UST FTW.
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Post  Roundapanda on Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:33 pm

OOh! I like UST!

And when I have monies, from the begining I will start!
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  kumarhk on Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:10 am

I saw a boxset of the entire X-Files for HK$1000, i.e. £78.5 or C$144.
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Post  Mekka on Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:59 am

Mary's Law of Cheesiness.

Brie is King.
Gruyere is Queen.
Cheddar is the Prince.
St Agur is the Princess.
Wensleydale is the serving wench.
Chesire is the Knight.
Mozzarella is the Jester.
Stilton with Apricot is the dark secret hidden in the dungeon.

The castle is made of water biscuits.

The Moat is filled with Duché de Longueville Cider.

I'm hungry now.....
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  rob on Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:05 pm

Old Amsterdam is the Baron .
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  Tony on Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:20 am

I just relistened to this podcast and wanted to let Jakob know that he's not alone, I too watched "Millenium". I believe it was on for two seasons. Being the extreme X-Files fan I was, I was thrilled to hear that Cris Carter had a new series coming out. I would tape the M episodes (VHS), just like I did for X. I ended up not watching M as much, as I found it much more disturbing than X, basically for what you said in the Celebrity podcast about reality being much more disturbing than the movies, i.e. your serial killer discussion. M was a very dark show!

Also, I do believe the M show logo and Scully's tattoo were one and the same.
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Re: #24 Sculder and Mully

Post  Jakob on Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:34 am

I never actually watched Millennium. You are alone in that, Tony.
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Post  Marius on Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:10 pm

Not so, Tony. As we discussed in our X-Files episode( geek ) I tried to watch Millennium, but each episode started off with some horrific atrocity and I gradually lost the intestinal fortitude to watch what I had taped. I was quite upset by that since I think Lance Henrickson is brilliant, although he's not really done anything of quality for quite some time.
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Post  Tony on Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:48 pm

Watching Mellenium was like watching the news on TV when all of the news stories were about terrible murders. It was like a dementor, it totally drained the life from your soul. Very well made, as I recall, but very dark and disturbing. Didn't the show take place in a small town? How many freaks and serial killers lived in that town?!!?! I'd move away if I was living there, if I survived the night...
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