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Post  2hot2handle Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:59 am

Considering two topics have been turned into Harry Potter topics i thought that we may as well have somwhere to specificaly talk about it. And to kick things off, the first time i read "Deathly Hallows" i didn't think much of it.
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Post  ori-STUDFARM Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:26 am

I started reading the books, got as far as the third one, and just never got around to the rest. I've not watched the movies, though have seen bits, as and when, just in passing! I'm sure I'll enjoy it, but struggle to find any kind of enthusiasum to go out of my way for Harry Potter. It's not going anywhere, I'll catch it sometime.

Not really a hurdle for me. The nerdom isn't holding me back, just the urge or need to read or watch Harry Potter.


Sorry Kumar
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Post  Roundapanda Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:11 pm

*frowns and prepars pointy stck*
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Post  kumarhk Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:04 pm

ori-STUDFARM wrote:Not really a hurdle for me. The nerdom isn't holding me back, just the urge or need to read or watch Harry Potter.
I could have said the exact same thing about Red Dwarf one year ago. Twisted Evil

You never know till you've tried.
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Post  kumarhk Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:06 pm

2hot2handle wrote:the first time i read "Deathly Hallows" i didn't think much of it.
Deathly Hallows was a great read, but I wouldn't have said it was the best of the books when I read it the first time.

After that first read, I went through all seven books, cover to cover (yes, I am a major NERD Rolling Eyes), and suddenly, everything in Deathly Hallows (even the epilogue) made so much sense it was ridiculous. Deathly Hallows is definitely my favourite now.
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Post  Hayden_Bloom Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:44 am

Kumar, would you actually consider the Potter books to be masterworks of fiction? I understand that you love them and everything, but I was wondering from the level of defence you are giving the books whether or not you think that these are flawless books.
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Post  Roundapanda Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:47 am

kumarhk wrote:
2hot2handle wrote:the first time i read "Deathly Hallows" i didn't think much of it.
Deathly Hallows was a great read, but I wouldn't have said it was the best of the books when I read it the first time.

After that first read, I went through all seven books, cover to cover (yes, I am a major NERD Rolling Eyes), and suddenly, everything in Deathly Hallows (even the epilogue) made so much sense it was ridiculous. Deathly Hallows is definitely my favourite now.

It's deffinately not my favourite
In fact I doubt I'll ever read it again, unless I'm feeling really brave Razz
I acctually took a break when JKR killed a certain sock loving character because it made me too sad and I could see a massacre on the horizon

The books deffinately aren't flawless, but who cares they still kick the ass of every other series of books I've read
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Post  2hot2handle Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:04 am

Roundapanda wrote:The books deffinately aren't flawless, but who cares they still kick the ass of every other series of books I've read

Really? Whatr sort of other book series have you read?
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Post  Roundapanda Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:19 am

2hot2handle wrote:
Roundapanda wrote:The books deffinately aren't flawless, but who cares they still kick the ass of every other series of books I've read

Really? Whatr sort of other book series have you read?

the Terry Pratchett Gnome books (Truckers, Diggers, Wings) which are awesome and I read the Wee Free Men but not all of Hatful of Sky (JKR's fault for brining out OOTP)
Steve Barlow and Steve Skidmore's Tales of the Dark forest Books (Good Knyght, Whizzard, Trollogy and Knyghtmare) also awesome
and 10/13 of the Series of Unfortunate events books by Lemony Snickett Smile The longest vocabularly lesson you will ever have Razz
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Post  Hayden_Bloom Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:42 pm

Those Lemony Snicket books were utter wank. The dude writes better than almost any childrens writer out there, but the world he painted was just so ridiculously convoluted I wanted to stab myself in the foot. Similarly to The Matrix films, he milked it too.Not only did you have to read and reread the thirteen books to understand what the fuck was going on, you had to buy his autobiography, watch the film and buy the Beatrice letters, most of which were in a stupid indecipherable code!
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Post  Roundapanda Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:57 pm

Hayden_Bloom wrote:Those Lemony Snicket books were utter wank. The dude writes better than almost any childrens writer out there, but the world he painted was just so ridiculously convoluted I wanted to stab myself in the foot. Similarly to The Matrix films, he milked it too.Not only did you have to read and reread the thirteen books to understand what the fuck was going on, you had to buy his autobiography, watch the film and buy the Beatrice letters, most of which were in a stupid indecipherable code!

They're not that bad but I probably won't read them again. I did, even as an eight year, apprciate not being talked down to (or should that be written down to) like in other kids books which always realy annoyed me.
That's probably why the time I was nine I'd moved on to Terry Pratchett books Razz
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Post  Hayden_Bloom Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:08 pm

Roundapanda wrote:
That's probably why the time I was nine I'd moved on to Terry Pratchett books
Another thing I may get shot down for is my dislike of all the discworld novels. To be fair, I haven't given them a real chance, I think I've read The Colour of Magic and The Fifth Elephant, but I never really got into them. I'm not big on any fantasy really, other than Lord of the Rings, but I did quite enjoy The Gnome Trilogy.

I similarly moved onto mature books at about age Nine, but for some reason unbeknownst to me, after reading 1984 and Hitchhikers, I went back to kids books until I was, say, 14. Then it was High Fidelity and Carrie that got me reading like a nutter, making up for lost time as it were.
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Post  Roundapanda Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:13 pm

Hayden_Bloom wrote:
Roundapanda wrote:
That's probably why the time I was nine I'd moved on to Terry Pratchett books
Another thing I may get shot down for is my dislike of all the discworld novels. To be fair, I haven't given them a real chance, I think I've read The Colour of Magic and The Fifth Elephant, but I never really got into them. I'm not big on any fantasy really, other than Lord of the Rings, but I did quite enjoy The Gnome Trilogy.

I similarly moved onto mature books at about age Nine, but for some reason unbeknownst to me, after reading 1984 and Hitchhikers, I went back to kids books until I was, say, 14. Then it was High Fidelity and Carrie that got me reading like a nutter, making up for lost time as it were.

I read Hitchhikers when I was 11 Smile I was reading Stephen King books when I was about 11 or 12 aswell.
To be honest the only kids books I've ever re visited were the Tales of The dark Forest books and, of course The Harry Potter series, which I find I apprciate the layers and the detail of the universe everytime I re read them
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Post  Hayden_Bloom Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:16 pm

I occasionally reread The Diamond Brothers books by Horowitz, only because there is a lot of double entendre and satire there that I missed as a 6 year old.
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Post  Roundapanda Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:25 pm

Pulling this thread back on topic, I was just wondering
How would people feel if JKR wrote an Albus Potter series or a Marauders prequel?
And which would people prefer?

Honestly I'd prefer Marauders, but I, like Mandi tongue would be incredibly disapointed by it because Remus and Sirius wouldn't be dating... or maybe they would... subtextually Razz
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Post  Hayden_Bloom Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:53 pm

I don't see a place for either. I think that both would seem incredibly strained, and I cant see Rowling writing them for any reason other than to milk that cash cow. Just let it go, look at the other series that have had sequl/prequals after the event Indy IV, the matrix films, Red Dwarf. Bad move.
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Post  Jakob Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:04 pm

Roundapanda wrote:
Honestly I'd prefer Marauders, but I, like Mandi tongue would be incredibly disapointed by it because Remus and Sirius wouldn't be dating... or maybe they would... subtextually Razz

I think the term is subsextual.
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Post  Sissillie Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:54 am

Roundapanda wrote:Pulling this thread back on topic, I was just wondering
How would people feel if JKR wrote an Albus Potter series or a Marauders prequel?
And which would people prefer?

Honestly I'd prefer Marauders, but I, like Mandi tongue would be incredibly disapointed by it because Remus and Sirius wouldn't be dating... or maybe they would... subtextually Razz

I agree...I would love to see a Marauders prequel...or at least the one in my head...but I don't think it would happen the way I want it to so it's probably better just to leave it be.

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Post  kumarhk Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:49 pm

I was recently conversing with my sister and a guest, and the topic of Harry Potter came up (heh. heh. heh). As I told them that I had given up any hope that the films could even come close to representing the books and that I appreciated them for what they were (and for the fact that they don't try to drag the books onto the screen directly), I was called a "Harry Potter snob".

Erm ... what the fuck?

Any thoughts on this?
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Post  Mandi Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:02 pm

You are a Harry Potter snob, but I'd expect that you'd be proud of it. You are proud, right? I'm proud of your Harry Potter snobbery. It is deep and multifaceted.


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Post  ori-STUDFARM Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:02 pm

Yeah......you're a Harry Potter snob!!

Very Happy only joking. We wouldn't have it any other way!!
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Post  kumarhk Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:04 pm

See, I am well aware of being a Harry Potter snob and all, but I don't see the logic in identifying me as such for that comment. I is just confused, I guess ...
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Post  Roundapanda Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:10 pm

kumarhk wrote:See, I am well aware of being a Harry Potter snob and all, but I don't see the logic in identifying me as such for that comment. I is just confused, I guess ...

It could be worse
You could be a rabid Fan Girl

I'm torn between a constant state of *squee*ing and just feeling furious
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Post  Mandi Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:12 pm

I guess that comment makes you a Potter snob, because only a Potter snob would concern himself with whether or not the films were doing the books justice and to what extent and in what way. Your average Potterer would probably just say, "Yeah dude, it was awesome!" about anything Potter. Well, provided he was also a surfer.
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Post  Roundapanda Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:16 pm

Mandi wrote:I guess that comment makes you a Potter snob, because only a Potter snob would concern himself with whether or not the films were doing the books justice and to what extent and in what way. Your average Potterer would probably just say, "Yeah dude, it was awesome!" about anything Potter. Well, provided he was also a surfer.

These "average" fans of which you speak are fools.

BLIND FOOLS!!!!
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