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Post  Roundapanda Tue May 19, 2009 2:54 pm

Things I can do while I listen to podcasts
- lie in bed wishing I was asleep
- walking from the bustop to my house
- walking from my house to the bustop
- cooking
- playing video games (which has become a rare occourance)
- Drawing (Nerd hurdles can keep me company while I draw a crap ton of grass... took me and hour to do an inch)
- writing this post

and I've never heard of this mysterious The Cloud...

My people name is not googlable, but my internet name is Smile
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Post  Mandi Tue May 19, 2009 4:57 pm

My internet name is hella googlable. Especially with the underscore. Thanks for not knowing what "The Cloud" is, I was worried I was maybe alone in that.
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Post  GAB Tue May 19, 2009 7:20 pm

I found that reference a bit, well, cloudy as well. Then again, though, I'm not all that plugged in. I think I agree with the friend who takes strange pride in being very low profile online. I'm not the first GAB on Google's mind, ever.

I'm the laundry guy in my household, and podcasts are perfect for hanging, folding, sorting, etc.
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Post  kumarhk Tue May 19, 2009 11:35 pm

I used to listen to podcasts only while traveling, but now I tend to listen while doing housework as well. Seeing as I have a massive list of podcasts, I've now started listening to them as an activity all by itself. It's weird; I feel like I have to do something with my hands (so I play Vortex on my iPod).
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Post  Bucho Wed May 20, 2009 2:33 am

You guys are dead right about listening while doing chores, since I discovered them in 2005 podcasts have revolutionised my levels of enthusiasm for stuff like mowing lawns, hanging out washing, vacuuming, washing dishes, or polishing my stormtrooper armour*. I listen a fair bit while driving too, we have some decent radio stations in NZ but not good enough to listen to all the time.

Mostly though, I listen with one ear while I'm at work (I build houses). I have a set of earmuffs I've modded to accomodate headphones and because of site safety I only cover one ear at a time unless I'm operating loud gear. I just have to remember to keep the volume low enough not to blast my eardrum hairs flat.

Another awesome benefit of podcasts I discovered was that while I was living in Brazil last year they helped me get to sleep. Before I went there I'd never listened to podcasts in bed (or in a hammock) but I found that at the end of the day it helped so much just to have some English coming into my brain to calm the maelstrom of Portuguese that was hurtling around in there. I only had a cheapo 1GB player and could only rarely download new shows so I relistened to several of them (including about four mid-50s eps of Make It So) quite a few times, and luckily I'd fall asleep so fast from just being knackered I didn't use up so much listening time I that got bored.

* I wish.
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Post  rob Wed May 20, 2009 7:09 am

The nebulous 'cloud' term had already entered my consciousness through an article I recently read about the new wave of low-budget, ' accessible to third world country ', notebooks that are supposed to hit the market soon, which run almost completely through the internet with programs such as Word or media players stored on some server in a stormy cloud in a galaxy far far away. Also , computers at my college run from a 'cloud server' ...

This week's podcast elicited many a reproachful thought in me and I must confess to having written some things on the internet that I regretted afterwards. Some of it is so unlike me, spur of the moment thoughts and emotional outpourings or things I wouldn't dare to say in a face to face conversation due to a slight tendency towards diffidence and a laconic presence. I also tend to say stupid things simply to be able to participate in the community more , a nasty habit I should probably vanquish from my person.

A particular aspect I found interesting was the point you raised about knowing someone purely through the way they write . That you can simply tell whether they're jerks or not. The thought has struck me before that when I'm writing I know exactly what I intend to say , but how is someone else going to interpret it without the necessary ( or not) context of knowing me in person. I have often spell-checked a post I just wrote and thought , 'gosh, I'm such a whiny douche' and subsequently waved off the thought with a submissive sigh of 'what do I care' .

Podcasting has in the last half year penetrated my life to such a degree I had never anticipated when I subscribed to some feeds. Like Bucho , I now do not mind doing menial tasks around the house or walking the dog. The mental stimulant of hearing people discuss things , or the pleasure of having language ringing through my ears has brought so much joy and sunshine in my life that I cannot ever do away with this pleasure. I listen while clearing up the dishes, working, brushing my teeth, falling asleep, while cycling or riding the bus , anywhere where possible really!

Anyway, Thanks for this week's episode!
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Post  Bucho Wed May 20, 2009 8:26 am

rob wrote:... The mental stimulant ...

That's the perfect phrase Rob, I wish I'd thought of it. And the mental stimulation feeds into a physical one (let's all just keep our thoughts above the waist at this juncture ladies and gentlemen, trust me I'm trying to go somewhere with this) that makes it easier to exert oneself in the carrying out of said menial tasks around the house. As a great man once said/sung, it's a kind of magic, magic, magic.

(Yeah, as evidenced above, I don't have that filter you talk about to make me pre-check whether I'm about to post something that'll make my uneducated ass sound like an imbecile Rob, I just tend to assume everyone already knows I am one anyway, but that I also respect everyone I communicate with as at least an equal, if not approaching a demi-god status.)
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Post  rob Wed May 20, 2009 9:23 am

You lived in Brazil for a year , that's as sound an education as anyone is going to get!

One point I forgot to mention is that I do get the same kind of thing out of music which Jakob evinced in the podcast but I'd rather listen to music while I'm doing something else that demands my undivided attention and reserve podcast exposure to those time lapses when I my attention isn't commanded by anything mentally taxing so to have the ability to concentrate on what's being said. In those cases I think a podcast and a piece of music stand on about equal footing on the entertainment scale but I'd rather have both and thus opt for a podcast.
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Post  Jakob Wed May 20, 2009 9:58 am

I tend to do graphic design when listening (that being the "at work" I mentioned). So sometimes I have to listen to a podcast three times to catch everything. Especially with philosophy podcasts. If I'm don't soemthing where I have to pay attention to text (like typing-in a paragraph) I need to listen to music. And instrumental music at that.
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Post  GAB Wed May 20, 2009 1:36 pm

Same for me. Podcasts serve most physical tasks well. If I'm trying to read or write, though, I must switch to music. If what I'm writing is remotely complex, I switch to instrumentals. In fact, there are some instrumentals that demand too much of my attention -- some of Coltrane, as an example -- and I can't read or write well to those songs either.

New word time?
Podcrastination - delaying or falling behind in podcast listening due to interference from the "real" world.
Example: I did a Weather Station 3 marathon a few weeks ago to compensate for my podcrastination.
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Post  Jakob Wed May 20, 2009 1:47 pm

Weather Station 3 itself have been suffering from a little podcrastination. I wonder if there's finally a new one up yet...
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Post  GAB Wed May 20, 2009 6:38 pm

Jakob wrote:Weather Station 3 itself have been suffering from a little podcrastination. I wonder if there's finally a new one up yet...
What once was Lost has now been found. New episode is up this week with the Lost finale as its topic. Yea!

That presents a hurdle for me, though. It's one thing to watch the rest of a season to catch up. I stopped watching the show in season 1, though. Not because I wanted to, but because the family didn't want it on and didn't watch with me. That puts me 5 seasons behind ... that's a ton of catching up to do if I want to avoid the spoilers.
Yikes!
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Post  weathereye Wed May 20, 2009 6:44 pm

Ah, sorry folks; I recorded two WS3s that will never see the light of day. One suffered from the same problem as the Imaginary Friends episode -- everything in the left channel -- and it was crackling and muffled, to boot. I've given up trying to master Cubase. The second was an interview with my brother, who was hit by a train, on Canadian health care, emergency services and, of course, what it's like to be hit by a train. But after I prepared it for air, I listened again and realized he was so out of it on painkillers that he might not have understood what I was doing, and it wouldn't be fair to him to put that out there without his informed and coherent consent.

I know the Lost show isn't for everyone; the Lost segment ends at the 31-minute mark. There will be a new show this week.

Anyway ...

I loved Podcastration. It's like the perfect companion piece to the Imaginary Friends episode, exploring social media in a frank and earnest way. I agreed with so much that was said, and enjoyed every minute of it.

For the record, I listen to podcasts everywhere: walking, driving, working (not writing, though; Jakob's right on that front), doing chores, whatever. My music-listening has fallen by the wayside over the past couple of years; I have to fix that.
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Post  Bucho Wed May 20, 2009 7:03 pm

weathereye wrote:My music-listening has fallen by the wayside over the past couple of years; I have to fix that.

I've found the same thing, especially because the time I used to listen to music most was driving, and now I use about 80% of that time to listen to podcasts.
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Post  Jakob Wed May 20, 2009 7:06 pm

weathereye wrote:Ah, sorry folks; I recorded two WS3s that will never see the light of day. One suffered from the same problem as the Imaginary Friends episode -- everything in the left channel -- and it was crackling and muffled, to boot. I've given up trying to master Cubase. The second was an interview with my brother, who was hit by a train, on Canadian health care, emergency services and, of course, what it's like to be hit by a train. But after I prepared it for air, I listened again and realized he was so out of it on painkillers that he might not have understood what I was doing, and it wouldn't be fair to him to put that out there without his informed and coherent consent.

That ties in too with what I was saying about making good choices when including people we know when making our "art"... I probably would have aired that anyway. But you're a better person than I am.
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Post  ori-STUDFARM Wed May 20, 2009 8:23 pm

I don't think I can get through my working day anymore without podcasts. Radio drives me insane.
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I drive around all day in the above listening to a whole variety of shows. Some are audiodrama's and some are just chat shows. Sometimes with a topic or theme and sometimes without. I work between 60 and 75 hours a week (plus an hour a days travel to and from) so get through a fair few. Podcasts definately make the task easier and the working day shorter.

One thing I noticed on this episode was when Mandi said "Not all nerds listen to podcasts". I think they would if they'd discovered them. My opinion is that not all nerds listen to podcasts, yet.

Please note. I have gone back over this posting and removed all exclamations and extra stops etc. And it's killing me. I want to stick a bunch of them all over the place. Must resist. Very Happy
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Post  Mandi Wed May 20, 2009 8:33 pm

Feel free to let your enthusiastic, nerdy flame burn bright!!!!!!!! We love you for it!!!!!!!! You work a freaking ton!!!!! Crazy!!! affraid
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Post  Bucho Wed May 20, 2009 11:39 pm

ori-STUDFARM wrote:I don't think I can get through my working day anymore without podcasts. Radio drives me insane.
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I drive around all day in the above listening to a whole variety of shows. Some are audiodrama's and some are just chat shows. Sometimes with a topic or theme and sometimes without. I work between 60 and 75 hours a week (plus an hour a days travel to and from) so get through a fair few. Podcasts definately make the task easier and the working day shorter.

Do you work in a quarry Ori? Quarry Studfarm?

Sorry.

Ori.
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Post  Marius Thu May 21, 2009 8:47 am

Another great episode, guys. I do lots of stuff while listening to podcasts. My house is cleaner for podcasts. My lawn more well cared for. And my hellacious daily commute flies by due to podcasts. The only things I can't do while listening to podcasts is work, since I forbid headphones in the shop due to safety reasons, and nothing. I can't just sit and listen to a podcast. Occasionally I'll try it in a waiting room, but then I feel really weird with nothing to 'do'. The only downside to podcasts for me is that I no longer listen to newscasts while driving, so I'm not as in touch with what's going on in the real world as I used to be. And just because I am a titanic nerd, I did know about the cloud.(although I do agree it's a stupid name)
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Post  ori-STUDFARM Thu May 21, 2009 1:37 pm

Bucho wrote:

Do you work in a quarry Ori? Quarry Studfarm?

Sorry.

Ori.

Started off in the rather un-eco friendly coal trade, but changed jobs about 4 years ago and now work in waste recycling. Sometimes I'm in the "shed" where all the domestic waste and skips come in, but usually work in the "inerts" yard. We produce road stone and aggregates from recovered brick and concrete or screen soil from the utilities companies.......Mind numbing at times!! I load lorries though!! Hey, maybe I should start a haulage company....ori's lorries!!
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Post  Bucho Fri May 22, 2009 7:08 am

I was mulling over what you guys said about forums in the episode and come to realise that even though my first reason for being part of them is it's fun to connect with peeps who share certain sensibilities, there's also a sense that even if no-one engages and replies to something I write, it's worth writing anyway if it's helped me understand my own feeling or thoughts about whatever I was writing about, just by putting it into words. I'm writing it to hopefully be part of a dialogue, and not just as a blind opinion dump, but if no one does answer it it's still worth it to me.

I was also mulling over what you said about the great advantage of Twitter being the 140 character limit, 'cause I think that'd absolutely be good for my verbose ass to learn to do. The hurdle Twitter represents to me is that it appears as an avalanche of inanity and it seems to me that it'd be too much like work, mining the mountains of horseshit for the gems, slogging through pointless, empty personal updates on haircuts, shopping choices, car problems, whinging about weather, a tidal wave of witless observations and substance-free opinion. There are entertaining Twitterer's out there I'm sure, maybe even informative ones, but the gauntlet I'd have to run to find them daunts the shit out of me.

But the 140 character limit? If anyone could benefit from learning to operate within such a boundary it's probably me (and anyone whose forum browsing runs across my posts Smile ).
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Post  Jakob Fri May 22, 2009 7:50 am

It was most certainly not you I was thinking of when I said that. You use your over 140 characters well.
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Post  Bucho Fri May 22, 2009 1:15 pm

I didn't mean to imply I felt it was aimed at me, just that, like many things you guys say in Nerd Hurdles, you make me think.

Wait, is that sentence less than 140 characters? If only there was some way to find out.
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Post  GAB Fri May 22, 2009 6:09 pm

Bucho wrote:I didn't mean to imply I felt it was aimed at me, just that, like many things you guys say in Nerd Hurdles, you make me think.

Wait, is that sentence less than 140 characters? If only there was some way to find out.
Only 127 characters, whew!
Until you add the sentence asking if the first sentence was under 140 ... then you hit 217 total.

Microsoft Word, Tools, Word Count. cheers

Lord knows I'd struggle to function, or even think, inside those brackets. Rolling Eyes
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Post  ori-STUDFARM Sat May 23, 2009 1:08 pm

I hate text message abbreviations. I would have thought that the 140 character limit would encourage this, but for the most part, everyone seems okay with it.

Also, when people explain it as a "Facebook" style status update, I cringe. It could be like that, but it isn't. You don't get many "I'm having a cup of tea and a biscuit" postings. You get the odd message like that, but usually, it is a 2-way 140 character limited conversation between 2 or more people. And most of the comments make me chuckle.

I follow too many people to go back over EVERY posting. I use Tweetdeck in which I keep 3 windows open. 1 for Replies directed at me. 1 for a chosen few that I don't want to miss tweets from. This includes all of the FictionShed team who make the audiodrama's we're involved in. (ScutterCast is also a part of FictionShed) and my 3rd window is a general one for all I follow. This is the one that I miss many posts on when I'm not on-line. I think you need some sort of Twiiter app to make Twitter work properly.
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