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What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Jakob on Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:54 am

Not just a cheap way for us to get new show ideas, I'm genuinely curious about what people find just that little bit too geeky. Especially what self-identifying nerds think is too geeky. What makes your insides sneer when you see people lining up for it? What baffles you when you hear people expounding its virtues? Or do you love all fandoms equally?
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Post  weathereye on Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:15 pm

My biggest Nerd Hurdle is book covers. Specifically, science fiction and fantasy book covers. I tend to carry a book everywhere I go, and I spend a lot of time reading in public while waiting for something to happen. I skip a lot of books I would like to read because the covers feature these lurid badly painted comic-booky images that make them look like something for people who are either 12 or want to be.
I have the same problem with Star Trek books. I like some, don't like most, but I'm sure there are many good ones hiding behind those ridiculous covers. That's changed of late; the publishers are toning things down a bit.
Why do book publishers think fans of these books want big loud colourful jacket art? Do they assume genre fans have no taste? I would argue we have more taste and more sense of art and design than the average book-buyer.
Anyway, that's my hurdle. I would like to be able to proudly read a book in public that features a cover with a creepy airbrushed alien fighting a muscleman. But I can't.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Jakob on Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:07 am

I understand, and share, this hurdle. Many a classic sci-fi novel I've avoided because of the cheesecake book art. Plus it's unfortunately misleading half the time. If I wanted to read a book about a sexy robot alien woman, I, Robot probably isn't the book for me. I was even wary of Ender's Game because of the cheesy super futuristic space ships from the 1991 edition. And because I read I've been reading on the subway lately, I've been loathe to be seen reading such books.

Cyberpunk tends to have better design, though when you read William Gibson on the train, people tend to want to tell you how awesome William Gibson is. His fans are hardcore apparently. Lately I've been reading Hard Case Crime's re-issues of classic noir and later period crime novels. The art is all done in the 50s pulp novel style, which is cool, but it means there's a half-naked girl on all the books I'm reading. I've learned a technique for angling the covers away from any possible line of vision. Maybe I read some sci-fi on the subway now.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  mediasaurusrex on Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:27 pm

I share the HARD CASE Hurdle, BIGTIME. I have been taking that stuff down. I however, proudly display my scantily clad bookcover when I am in public. People give me a wide berth, and when I am reading in public that is what I want.

Furthermore, I am all over the BFI Film Classics series. I grab them for about 8 bucks a pop and by the time I finish reading them, I never want to see the movie again. Something about amassing too much critical theory and knowledge on one film. Seriously. I did that with the BFI book on THE EXORCIST and I don't care if I see it ever again.

Those intellectual British baskets short me out...but I continue going back. Currently, they are ruining THE UNFORGIVEN for me.

I will let this thread blossom for a bit and then touch back down in regards to my film Hurdles, which are really getting out of control.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  kumarhk on Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:32 am

Posters are a big hurdle for me. I just don't see the point of waking up to a dozen posters from my favourite fandoms every morning. One or two, I can understand, but I like my wall to be a wall, not the aisle at a cinema.

That said, I adore my slightly tattered poster of the UK covers of the Harry Potter books. Which is the first thing I see when I wake up every day. Yeah. Shocked
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Sissillie on Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:16 am

Books on TV or movies. I'm not talking about books about the makings off...although that is a little bit of a hurdle...I'm talking about books that are essentially the TV show or movie in book form or an expansion of the universe. The Star Trek and the Star Wars books are prime examples of this for me. No matter how much more Star Trek I get into I can't imagine picking up one of those books...and yet I read fan fiction at times...weird I know.

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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Mekka on Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:11 am

The Klingon language. Or anything along those lines. Elvish, etc.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Marius on Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:38 am

Anime. My wife and daughter love it, but to me it all looks, and sounds the same. Everyone runs around sounding like hyperactive munchkins after a cocktail of ritalin, cocain, and helium, there's usually some kids involved, some slightly veiled yet never realized homo-erotic undercurrents, and a plotline that makes even the Star Wars prequels seem straight forward. I just don't get the appeal.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Mandi on Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:39 am

kumarhk wrote: I adore my slightly tattered poster of the UK covers of the Harry Potter books. Which is the first thing I see when I wake up every day. Yeah. Shocked
Is it on your ceiling?
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Mandi on Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:40 am

Mekka wrote:The Klingon language. Or anything along those lines. Elvish, etc.
Oooo... good one. I believe that I have both Klingon and Elvish dictionaries. It doesn't get much nerdier than that.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Jakob on Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:39 am

Marius wrote:Anime. My wife and daughter love it, but to me it all looks, and sounds the same...

I have a love/hate with anime. As I get older the love part has faded into more of a "I wish I could like this." A few high-water marks are Akira and Ghost in the Shell for storytelling (and more importantly lacking the elements you sited), but even they miss the mark slightly. Akira more so. It seems like all epic anime films end with a huge amorphose blob which gets tiring as well. I can watch any Miyazaki film though.

I have a larger hurdle for manga though. Yoshihiro Tatsumi is the only Japanese comics artist I can enjoy. But he's strictly not manga at all.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Jakob on Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:40 am

mediasaurusrex wrote:People give me a wide berth, and when I am reading in public that is what I want.

That's a good point. I'm going to be holding my Hard Cases up proud from now on. Let people think I'm reading pulp porn. Fuck 'em.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Mekka on Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:12 am

Wrestling. The original sport isn't really my bag. The WWE type stuff seems completely ridiculous.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Roundapanda on Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:44 pm

Sissillie wrote:Books on TV or movies. I'm not talking about books about the makings off...although that is a little bit of a hurdle...I'm talking about books that are essentially the TV show or movie in book form or an expansion of the universe. The Star Trek and the Star Wars books are prime examples of this for me. No matter how much more Star Trek I get into I can't imagine picking up one of those books...and yet I read fan fiction at times...weird I know.

I have the same problem. I was visiting my aunt and uncle and staying in one of the soare rooms in their house. The room I was staying has these big shelves full of books, within it, there are about 4 or 5 Star Trek books. I picked one up and began to read and almost immeadiatly dropped it with a very distinct "Icky" feeling. And I don't get the "Icky" feeling easily. I can't read Star Trek fan fic either (Lord knows I've tried, it must be an absaloute gold mine of hilarity)

edit: I don't like Anime either. Though that's not so much a Nerd Hurdle as it is an "I hate the way it looks" hurdle Shocked
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  ori-STUDFARM on Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:57 pm

My hurdle is a financial one. I WANT to get all geeky and buy nerdy stuff, but my wife will kill me if it costs pennies!
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  2hot2handle on Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:35 pm

Cosplay, when done well it can look realy good however when done badly... let's just leave it at that. However i may be going to a convention in a month (anime and video games apparently) and i plan on being a Tetris block.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Domino on Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:48 pm

ooooo that's funny....

what about this? I don't know if I love it or hate it....

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Post  Domino on Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:52 pm

sorry, i can't help myself. this is the last one then I'll stop clogging this topic with steampunkedness

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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Jakob on Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:06 pm

Well, I gotta say that warms the cockles of my clockwork heart.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Marius on Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:09 pm

Those are sweet. Like I said earlier, I love Steampunk as an art form. I'm just not so sure of it as a milieu.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  kumarhk on Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:12 am

Mandi wrote:
kumarhk wrote: I adore my slightly tattered poster of the UK covers of the Harry Potter books. Which is the first thing I see when I wake up every day. Yeah. Shocked
Is it on your ceiling?
Well, since you asked, let me tell you the story ...

There are two Harry Potter posters in our house. There's one with the covers of the first six books on it, and there's one with just the Deathly Hallows cover on it. At one point, I had the long poster (with the first six books' covers) on my wall and the short poster (with the Deathly Hallows cover) on my ceiling. It was pure awesomeness. Then, one day, the Deathly Hallows poster fell on me as I was getting ready to sleep. Needless to say, it never went up there again. The long poster is still on my wall, and the short poster is in my sister's room. As I wake up and lift my head, the first thing I see is my lovely Harry Potter poster. It's amazing Very Happy
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Kerokapala on Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:02 am

One of my bigger hurdles was touched on in an episode, and partly touched on in this thread. The pure, unabashed shamelessness that nerds approach their fandoms with, no matter how situationally inappropriate. I have a friend who's a big vidyagame nerd, and he would prattle on about shooting a hooker in the face before fighting a dragon in the middle of class. No thanks.

That, and the book covers! Holy hell! Some of these books I may actually want to read, but I can't bear to bring out the thing anywhere someone might see the 2/3ds naked barbarian making tender love to his bloodied halberd on a pile of goblins. Well, actually... I probably wouldn't read that, because of another hurdle:

High Fantasy.

I can't do it. It's generally like trying to crawl through russian lit where the author spends three pages describing the intricate brickwork of a series of low walls. I'll go back to my Mexican Magical Realism, thank you.
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  cartbozman on Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:47 pm

Hmm well you have already covered one of mine, that being Harry Potter.

Sorry Kumar, just can't do it. I have seen bits of the films, but it really seems to be a hurdle too far.

Not much had ever out nurded me, I have tried everything from role playing to warhammer, to live roleplaying and martial arts.
I even had a stint playing Magic the Gathering. But have never been labelled a geek as I have never obsessed about any one thing enough,
just done a bit of all of it.

So I guess I am challenging you all to find me something (other than potter) that I have not, or maybe would not (thus becoming a hurdle) get into Wink
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Roundapanda on Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:51 pm

cartbozman wrote:Hmm well you have already covered one of mine, that being Harry Potter.

Sorry Kumar, just can't do it. I have seen bits of the films, but it really seems to be a hurdle too far.

Not much had ever out nurded me, I have tried everything from role playing to warhammer, to live roleplaying and martial arts.
I even had a stint playing Magic the Gathering. But have never been labelled a geek as I have never obsessed about any one thing enough,
just done a bit of all of it.

So I guess I am challenging you all to find me something (other than potter) that I have not, or maybe would not (thus becoming a hurdle) get into Wink

Evil or Very Mad Don't knock what haven't tried! Potter rocks!

Then again a Nerd Hurdle is, by deffinition, something that makes you go "UGH NO!" when you think about trying it
So I've just contradicted myself
er... er... Stupefy! *Runs away*

While you're hear Boz, I must say, I can't get into Kung Fu movies at all
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Re: What's Your Hurdle?

Post  Hayden_Bloom on Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:10 pm

What's my Hurdle?
Well, the biggie is Star Trek. I've seen an episode of pretty much every incarnation, but I only liked the episode of DS9 that I saw, I thought the others were a bit ham and a bit too campy. In fact there are a couple of other shows I've not yet got into that seem interesting. Battlestar, Babylon 5, Quantum Leap etc. This is what happens when you spend your formative years only watching films and sitcoms.
I haven't really hurdled music. I know thats a quite broad thing to crack, but I don't think I will have done my learning properly until I can trace influences and that. Similarly with Fiction I only got into grown-up fiction about three years ago so at the moment my reading is limited to only a few authors: F. Scott Fitzgerald, Cormac McCarthy, Stephen King and Chuck Palaniuk stand out as the guys who've books I've read a lot of. I find it hard to judge how good a book might be by its cover or blurb so I tend to stick to authors who've works have been adapted into films and go from there. I also barely read anything written before about 1950. I know I need to rectify this, and I did recently read The Old Man and The Sea, which I very much enjoyed, however I do find most classic literature to be quite drab, a little too descriptive with little payoff for my tastes.
I will come back to this thread when I'm not running late for the cinema, I have quite a bit more to write about films and comics.
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